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From Pricing to the Reliance Involvement in Rafale – Interview of Dassault CEO Nails the Lies of Rahul Gandhi

It is not a new thing to note that Rahul Gandhi has been repeatedly lying in context of the Rafale Deal, since he constantly repeats the same false allegations throwing varied numbers, which have been busted by The True Picture here. Various irresponsible comments and allegations by Congress President, Rahul Gandhi had brought a huge embarrassment for the entire country at an international level when he lied on the floor of the house pointing out an unfound statement of the French President. That time the French Government had to issue an official statement denying the claims by Rahul Gandhi. Now, the interview of Dassault CEO, Eric Trappierto at ANI news agency has again countered many falsehoods Rahul Gandhi has been actively spreading on the Rafale deal.

Though, it is not the first time that the Dassault CEO is countering Rahul Gandhi’s lies, you may read our old piece, Dassault Aviation CEO Completely Punctures the Rafale Scam Allegations, to see how the allegation of ‘Reliance getting undue profit from the deal’ has been busted by us. Here are the statements by Dassault CEO that further made things clearer, clearly countering the accusations by Rahul Gandhi, including his claim that Dassault CEO was lying. In the interview, the CEO was not rebutting Rahul Gandhi per se but was answering very specific questions asked by ANI Interviewer.

Nevertheless, it answers every falsehood Rahul Gandhi has been trying to create. So, we have presented as to how his answers were demolishing every lie Rahul Gandhi has been attempting to spread.

1. Rahul Gandhi’s Claim

There has been a cover up in the process of awarding contract to Reliance and the Dassault CEO is lying on the same.

CEO’s Rebuttal

“I don’t lie. The truth I declared before and the statements I made are true. I don’t have a reputation of lying. In my position as CEO, you don’t lie!”

2. Rahul Gandhi’s Claim

Reliance which has no prior experience of manufacturing fighter jets has been awarded the contract.

CEO’s Rebuttal

“We are not putting the money in Reliance. The money is going into the Joint Venture (JV). I put my know-how free of charge on how to produce people. I have engineers and workers from Dassault who are taking the lead as far as the industrial part of this deal is concerned. At the same time, I have an Indian company like Reliance who is putting money into this JV as they want to develop their country. So, the company is going to know how to produce aircraft.”

3. Rahul Gandhi’s Claim

The pricing of the Rafale fighter jets ballooned as compared to the previous UPA Government’s negotiations.

CEO’s Rebuttal

The present aircrafts are cheaper by 9%. “Price of 36 was exactly the same when you compare with 18 flyaway. 36 is the double of 18, so as far as I was concerned, it should have been double the price. But because it was government to government, there was some negotiation, I had to decrease price by 9%. The price of Rafale in flyaway condition is less expensive in the 36- contract than the 126- contract.”

4. Rahul Gandhi’s Claim

HAL was sidelined to the advantage of private companies like Reliance and the Dassault did it because the Modi government wanted it that way.

CEO’s Rebuttal

“… if the initial deal of 126 jets went through, we would not have hesitated to work with HAL and Mukesh Ambani-led Reliance. It’s because the 126 didn’t go smooth that the Government of India had to reconfigure to urgently acquire 36 from France. And then I took the decision to continue with Reliance, and HAL even said in the last few days that they were not interested to be part of the offset. So, it has been done by my decision and the decision of Reliance to invest in a new private company. Dassault was earlier in discussions with several other companies for offset tie-ups. Obviously, we could have gone to Tata or other family groups. At that time, the decision to go ahead was not given to Dassault. We were in 2011, Tata was also discussing with other flying companies. We finally decided to go ahead with Reliance as they have experience in big engineering facilities.”

From the above reply of Dassault CEO, three things are clear.

1. There was no deal or no final agreement was signed on HAL’s involvement in the Rafale deal execution under UPA, as Rahul Gandhi want the nation to believe.

2. Even in the failed negotiation under UPA, the proposal included the involvement of Mukesh Ambani led Reliance. Prior to that, awarding Tata company also was on card. So, what exactly is the false private player bougie that Rahul Gandhi has been desperately trying to evoke.

3. Picking Reliance for the Joint Venture was the decision of Dassault and Modi government has nothing to do with it.

5. Rahul Gandhi’s Claim

All the money has been put into Anil Ambani’s pocket. (of course, this has been busted by the multiple stakeholders in this deal which has been explained in our piece, Rs 30,000 Crore in Ambani’s Pocket”- One Among Many lies by Rahul Gandhi on Rafale)

CEO’s Rebuttal

“We have already settled work and agreement with 30 companies, which represents 40% of total offset obligation as per contract. Reliance is 10% out of the 40, while rest 30% is a direct agreement between these companies and Dassault.Dassault has seven years to perform offset. During first three years, we are not obliged to say with who we are working.”

By the above reply it has been reiterated that the Reliance share is limited only to 10% and there is not even an iota of truth when Rahul Gandhi says sum of Rs 30,000 crore went to Anil Ambani’s pocket.


Unlike Rahul Gandhi’s empty rhetoric and comments, the facts laid out by the Dassault CEO, Eric Trappier speak hard numbers and procedures. This interview has answered all the falsehoods pertaining to the Rafale Deal, right from pricing to the involvement of the private parties.